Right wing experience: Walk past a right wing protest literally by coincidence, spoke to the demonstrators just for giggles. They wanted to give me a sign to hold, wanted to network. So I networked with them. They invited me to another few protests which I didn’t go to. I had some time and went to 1 of their protests. Afterwards they invited me to a house party and I went to that lol.

Leftwing experience #1: finally found a leftwing group, Which was rather difficult because my city is right wing. Extremely eager to go out and do praxis. My contact there got in touch with me via email. She didn’t want to progress from email to call or anything in person. When I asked about irl Praxis she said they didn’t need anybody right now (???). The back and forth emails felt like mostly a waste of time. She’d throw in the occasional low-key insults. Eventually revealed that singular they wanted to spend God knows how long “vetting” me before anything further would happen. This was happening at around the same time I met those right wing activists above.

That leftwing above wouldn’t allow me to network with anyone else in their org, extremely strong gate keeping. Judging from a few things she said, I’d only speak to someone in the same manner as her if I thought they were a murderer on the run.

Eventually i just gave up.

Leftwing experience #2: Different City. Networked with my local iww. Gave me the union training over zoom. I didn’t have money to pay for their dues, but told the organizer to invite me to protests they go to. Long story short, organizer said they wouldn’t invite me for any protests unless I put cash on the table.

In the 20 years I lived in that City, I never saw or heard anything about that iww. Pretty sure they never did anything besides closed door zoom meetings.

Tldr: the left wingers I met or either incompetent or douchebags.

It’s literally easier and faster to approach women for dating/sex stuff, at least in my experience, than get lefties to do something. in my country. I’m not a Chad or anything either.

My suggestions: Drop the gatekeeping bs, actually do shot that isn’t zoom meetings or reading books, drop the financial requirements. If the right wing icons didn’t spend so much time bashing minorities, I might have believed capitalism works.

My experience with the IWW has been similarly disappointing/underwhelming. Felt like a good ol’ boys club but for white leftist men who seemed to see the writing on the wall and basically just adapted in order to seem like they’re progressive when they really aren’t. I don’t have anything against white leftist men but when they clearly use their privilege to turn things like the IWW into a little club, it’s just so disappointing.

I also hate how a lot of these types of “activists” are so risk-averse when it’s so clear that this risk-aversion comes from living that good privileged life where they pretend to be down for real shit but when push comes to shove, they’re out here really saying shit like "woah hang on, we could get arrested for that" over the most low-risk activism that is so far from anything remotely extreme. Whenever I hear stuff like that, all I can think is “these people have no clue the risks BIPOC have to deal with just for living our lives”.

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Haha good point, everybody in that iww were caucasian. Gender ratio was all right

That’s the thing, I think their idea of diversity involves including white women but not women of color and that in itself is another issue. It’s like when a company says they’re going to implement a diversity initiative because there’s too many white men at the top… and then they hire some blonde, blue-eyed white woman who just happens to be friends with the owners and call it

d i v e r s i t y

and we’re all meant to applaud that nonsense

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This is a great point you bring up. My right wing contacts seem much more likely to vote and weigh in to the world financially and sometimes politically (ex bringing up anti abortion shiza in public)

My African-American contacts often don’t vote. They usually more concerned basic survival needs compared to the right wingers (ex job loss = homeless but for my right winger contacts, job loss = have to delay vacation plans)

How does somebody recruit ethnic minorities that are 5th gen plus into a left-wing thing? (Ex African Americans. But not say Chinese immigrants - the 1st gen immigrants I know don’t vote, they usually focus on being, imo, bloody wealthy)

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