Hey now, I’m gonna need to upgrade my GPU in a couple years and prices are already real shit. Don’t make it worse please 😔

I’m actually kinda surprised about this move though. At first, when the article said US officials “asked” Nvidia to stop selling those chips to China, I thought it was a classic “oh pwease Capital owners, can you do this for us 🥺”. Later on in the article though, they’re actually banned from selling those chips. Didn’t really expect that kind of involvement to be honest.

Wasn’t there a bill called “CHIP” or something that had passed recently, whose entire point was to bring some chip manufacturing back stateside so Taiwan couldn’t be used like that? Or was that another one of those “here’s $50 billion dollars, could you maybe think about possibly building a factory here in the US sometime in the next 10-25 years?” sorta deals.

The CHIPS act.

And it’s yet to be seen what it will do. I’ve seen lots of people in communist spaces making fun of it as just being a hand-out to these companies but we’ll have to see. Definitely these companies are pocketing a lot of it buuuut it could be they actually build fabs of some meaningful production capacity here. Most likely if they do it will be after they pass another bill for more money as most of the original will be eaten up in corruption by the companies. Luckily for the US and unfortunately for us they’re still the reserve currency of the world so they can afford to toss another $50 billion or even $100 billion at the problem.

The thing is the US might be serious this time as they did a forced tech transfer on TSMC and also grabbed their lists of customers and other data you’d want if you actually intended to replace them.

And as to the whole needing a new GPU thing. I know your pain. I yearn for the return of days when one can get a not top tier but upper-middle of the pack GPU for $300 a year after release.

The best thing for prices GPU-wise though it won’t help in the next 5 years is China developing and selling their own. Of course it might not help those in the west as they’ll likely ban selling of them here in a protectionist move. Because AMD isn’t going to topple NVIDIA and doesn’t want to challenge them seriously on pricing either and Intel isn’t going to do anything there. China is the only hope but they’ll almost certainly end up banned.

I hope they do bring back some of that manufacturing stateside. From what I understand, the exporting of jobs overseas has really screwed over the workers here, and has screwed over workers overseas through additional exploitation and theft of their national resources.

AMD has made big moves against Intel in the CPU department, so I’d like to think they’d do the same against Nvidia. Handing over most of the GPU market to Nvidia is pretty shit overall. Hadn’t really even considered Intel making GPUs, and now I’m wondering why they haven’t really attempted to make moves in that department. Would’ve thought that with the growth of machine-learning tech, they would’ve at least started R&D for that kind of thing.

I mean I’d prefer they not do so. Because I want the communist power (China) to win and American workers are basically bought off and moving manufacturing back here won’t cause a revolution. The best hope for American revolution is not fetishizing the post-war boom years which didn’t at all produce communism in this country (even before suppression the communist movement in the US never had much wide-spread support, those labor unions that did exist were of the compromising and anti-communist type by and large).

Besides to do so would indicate a plan by the bourgeoisie to immiserate and impoverish vast amounts of Americans to create a pool of suitably cheap manufacturing labor. That or to fill the prisons even further (most made in America stuff at this point is made by prison slave labor). The kind of worst case end result of the abortion ban situation going around with tons of unwanted kids, no futures, desperation, etc. It doesn’t make a ripe situation for revolution.

Frankly the only way you get revolution in the US, the imperial core is for it to be completely crushed. I don’t mean workers alone crushed, I mean the bourgeoisie, the military situation, the financial situation. Yes, workers will suffer but well they’ve chosen to have the blood of billions on their hands for their tiny sliver of the pie the American bourgeoisie hands out to them and have been happily making that deal for a century. The brainwashing is intense and I feel only a complete failure of the system, a collapse of dollar hegemony, a collapse of the financial controls over the globe by the west, a collapse of control over Africa. A collapse over having any kind of market dominance anywhere will bring about the kind of situation where Americans are finally amenable enough to communism to seriously question some of the best brainwashing on earth.

And when it does it won’t be manufacturing workers who bring it. It will be retail workers, it will be service economy workers like in restaurants, it will be “gig” workers who will likely start it.

Frankly the idea of re-industrializing the US is a pipe-dream that could only be brought about through the working of countless horrors on the rest of the world and those in the US leaving us with little hope for a future or revolution.

There is a tendency among some to fetishize the image of the factory worker, to fetishize the notion of manufacturing workers, steel worker men, stereotypical stuff like that as being the vanguard and this idea that without that image existing in some quantities you can’t do it. Well the US missed that train in the 20s, 30s, and again in the 50s and ever since. Development-wise other than the whole slavery and low wage exploitation undercutting prices in the developing world/China the only real way to do it would be heavy automation which wouldn’t provide significant jobs and would probably come along with bribes from the bourgeoisie in the form of a universal basic income to urge the proles into VR pods to work mining NFTs or some other nonsense. It’s honestly horrifying to think about.

What has screwed over workers here is a lack of class consciousness, is a lack of solidarity, is the allowing of neo-liberalism, Reagan, etc to destroy unions and worker bargaining power, to atomize our society further and further, to use cheap red meat division tactics in the liberal political arena to viciously divide people and drive them away from unions, standing up for worker rights, etc. What has screwed over workers here frankly is accepting the anti-communism and viciously upholding it among themselves.

What has screwed them over is accepting the vicious, murderous plundering of the global south by this nation so they can live a little cushier lives off the corpses and bloodied fingers of children.

Bringing back manufacturing to the US would not bring class consciousness. It would not bring back unions. It would not do anything to help US workers and certainly nothing to help global workers long exploited and brutalized by the US empire.

Agree Amerikkka is a truly disgusting thing. The sad attempts by liberals and conservatives to whitewash it and spread idealist lies are useless. Glory to the balkanization and the brutal crushing of our ruling class.

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