Haz (infafred) and Caleb Maupin are patcocs (understood here as modern strausserites) not appreciated here, but this is just posting good mirrored content. Bay Area 415 was appreciated on the Genzedong subreddit. These patsocs think that appealing to reactionaries trans-phobia, homophobia, and racism is a good means to get them to support workers rights. My impression is that they are dialectical idealists, and willing to maintain white/cis/straight supremacy to get worker rights and see helping marginalized groups as a bourgeoisie luxury. I’ve listened to Haz and concluded that to him being dialectical just means being incoherent.
I agree that just asking people to feel guilty for their whiteness is probably not a good means of convincing people, but how about we just treat people with respect if they are not hurting anyone. Read your history and realize that if you are white and in the heart of empire you have advantages that others don’t, but you are still proletariat and your interests are in helping all proletariat, so kicking down at people that do you no harm is counterproductive. As communists we want to liberate the entire human race to be who they are as long as they are not exploiting anybody. If you hate black people committing crimes due to desperation, then they should be given opportunities and we should stop disenfranchising them from wealth and power.
Making ideological concessions before you even really have power just shows a level of weakness in conviction. Maybe saying you really want to do what the slave-holding founding fathers pretended to want to do is fine, but there is a difference between meeting people where they are at and lacking in communist principles.
Patsoc = patriotic socialist. Usually Western. They think socialists should be patriotic, using the country’s traditional flags, colours, institutions, etc.
Socdem = social democrat. They are pro-capitalists who argue that capitalism can be reformed. They think it is enough to tax the rich and provide state services (welfare).
Radlib = radical liberal. These are liberals who make radical statements. E.g. they might say anti-government slogans. Sometimes they claim to be anti-capitalist, but they refuse to abandon liberalism.
These are variations of the same problem. The patsocs think it is possible to have a revolution in the mode of production while keeping the same capitalist culture. Socdems think it is possible to fix all the problems of capitalism (such as poverty) while keeping capitalism. Radlibs think it is possible to keep the capitalist mode of production while changing the surface details.
This is a basic summary. Others will rightfully disagree. But this should cover the main ideas involved.
Demsocs and radlibs support imperialism. I’ve seen patsocs support china and oppose imperialism, but also support anti imperialist countries for less than great reasons (often for their reactionary culture). if you are a person outside of the US imperial core I don’t think they are important enough to concern yourself with much.
I agree with this guy on most leftist internet groups nowadays:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qtoBwCJlT5w start at about 2:30 this guy is kind of a joke in his own way
Until leftist groups in the imperial core actually have power to undermine imperialism, they are just white noise.
Patsocs just take unkindly stances towards LGBT and ethnic minorities. Also sometimes they are anti worker to some worker groups like Starbucks baristas for their aesthetics concerns over substance of what makes someone a worker. If the patsocs ever took power I would not trust them to stand against imperialism on principle. To them it is about the notional support of workers with conservative social policy in order to recruit neocons to something more supportive of workers. I would not be surprised if they are a federal psyop.
There’s some overlap with NATO. But they’re not completely the same. The Imperial core probably refers to North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and North Western Europe.
This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.
If you haven’t already found it, this GitHub page is an excellent collection of sources about socialism, imperialism, and other relevant topics, made by @dessalines and others.
The dude is also mirroring Maupin and Haz but whatever, good find.
Take the good, leave the bad.
I assume without opening that is HopperTheMarxist, he just mirrors whatever useful socialist/leftist content there is.
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Haz (infafred) and Caleb Maupin are patcocs (understood here as modern strausserites) not appreciated here, but this is just posting good mirrored content. Bay Area 415 was appreciated on the Genzedong subreddit. These patsocs think that appealing to reactionaries trans-phobia, homophobia, and racism is a good means to get them to support workers rights. My impression is that they are dialectical idealists, and willing to maintain white/cis/straight supremacy to get worker rights and see helping marginalized groups as a bourgeoisie luxury. I’ve listened to Haz and concluded that to him being dialectical just means being incoherent.
I agree that just asking people to feel guilty for their whiteness is probably not a good means of convincing people, but how about we just treat people with respect if they are not hurting anyone. Read your history and realize that if you are white and in the heart of empire you have advantages that others don’t, but you are still proletariat and your interests are in helping all proletariat, so kicking down at people that do you no harm is counterproductive. As communists we want to liberate the entire human race to be who they are as long as they are not exploiting anybody. If you hate black people committing crimes due to desperation, then they should be given opportunities and we should stop disenfranchising them from wealth and power.
Making ideological concessions before you even really have power just shows a level of weakness in conviction. Maybe saying you really want to do what the slave-holding founding fathers pretended to want to do is fine, but there is a difference between meeting people where they are at and lacking in communist principles.
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I can give a brief, general answer.
Patsoc = patriotic socialist. Usually Western. They think socialists should be patriotic, using the country’s traditional flags, colours, institutions, etc.
Socdem = social democrat. They are pro-capitalists who argue that capitalism can be reformed. They think it is enough to tax the rich and provide state services (welfare).
Radlib = radical liberal. These are liberals who make radical statements. E.g. they might say anti-government slogans. Sometimes they claim to be anti-capitalist, but they refuse to abandon liberalism.
These are variations of the same problem. The patsocs think it is possible to have a revolution in the mode of production while keeping the same capitalist culture. Socdems think it is possible to fix all the problems of capitalism (such as poverty) while keeping capitalism. Radlibs think it is possible to keep the capitalist mode of production while changing the surface details.
This is a basic summary. Others will rightfully disagree. But this should cover the main ideas involved.
Demsocs and radlibs support imperialism. I’ve seen patsocs support china and oppose imperialism, but also support anti imperialist countries for less than great reasons (often for their reactionary culture). if you are a person outside of the US imperial core I don’t think they are important enough to concern yourself with much.
I agree with this guy on most leftist internet groups nowadays: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qtoBwCJlT5w start at about 2:30 this guy is kind of a joke in his own way
Until leftist groups in the imperial core actually have power to undermine imperialism, they are just white noise.
Patsocs just take unkindly stances towards LGBT and ethnic minorities. Also sometimes they are anti worker to some worker groups like Starbucks baristas for their aesthetics concerns over substance of what makes someone a worker. If the patsocs ever took power I would not trust them to stand against imperialism on principle. To them it is about the notional support of workers with conservative social policy in order to recruit neocons to something more supportive of workers. I would not be surprised if they are a federal psyop.
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There’s some overlap with NATO. But they’re not completely the same. The Imperial core probably refers to North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and North Western Europe.
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I count France in North Western Europe and Canada in North America. You’re right that they’re both in the imperial core.
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South Korea, too