not even apple uses them. I’d like to sometimes point and click on my linux machine. With my finger. What’s wrong with that, it seems to work well on all the smartphones out there.

Because on a laptop, where you are going to use the keyboard, it’s just easier to use a mouse. Raising your arms to touch the screen is less ergonomic than just reaching for a mouse or trackpad.

I have a laptop with a touchscreen. Using a keyboard and mouse is much more comfortable for me.

I disabled the touchscreen driver on my laptop.

I like the touchscreen on my laptop. I don’t use it often, but it’s great when you’re lying in bed and it’s uncomfortable to use the touchpad.

As I see it, touch screens are not the best thing for productivity. If you have to keep your hands raised in the air for a long time, you will get tired. Unlike having to rest on the table or keyboard.

So even if you add a touchscreen to a laptop, you won’t use it much so it is smarter not to put it in the first places. Smartphone and tablets are not productivity tools. You use them with too fingers at most, for mostly consuming media or casual chats on the smartphone.

I am not sure you can comfortably do programming work or some heavy excel editing or whatever exclusively on touch screen (hands raised in the air and/or extreme hunchback)

At previous place of work, they provided dell XPS with touchscreens or convertibles to executves and directors. I rarely seen them use the touchscreen while working even if they knew of the feature. It was mostly occasional scrolling, clicking the start menu, or minor things like that.

I also guess that there isn’t a sufficiently high demand for it.

My laptop has touchscreen but I rarely ever use it. I guess I just haven’t had any situations where I felt it would be useful, and it takes a bit of effort to raise your hand to the screen.

Touch screens will just never be as productive as dedicated input peripherals. It’s similar to text editing in vim vs a GUI: point-and-click menu navigating and limited keyboard shortcuts bound to Ctrl will not be as productive as being entirely keyboard driven

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I’ve been coding the site you’re using for the last year or so on an android tablet. They’re fine for productivity.

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whoa

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It works fine too, I can work in a lot more spaces without a mouse (like just a tiny lap desk). I can and do code outdoors a lot because of the smart screen brightness adjustment android has.

What is your setup?

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Android tablet, current one is a xiaomi pad 5. Portable bluetooth keyboard. Strong phone / tablet stand from amazon.

Since I code remote, all I need to do that is termux, and occasionally bvnc for android dev, since they force you to use android studio ide. I have the vim plugin there tho, so a mouse isn’t necessary.

OK, so you basically use the keyboard to type code, not via touchscreen? Am I correct?

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Yeah, I have a bluetooth keyboard.

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I don’t disagree 😂

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I have a touchscreen on my Thinkpad and I often forget it’s there.

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interesting. Maybe the touchscreen is bad and that’s why you don’t use it? Most laptops with touchscreens that I have seen had pretty crappy ones.

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I think, it’s to make them cheaper.

Honestly I hate touchscreens so much lol. So many of the computers at my work place have touch screens, and it drives me crazy because, I’m often trying to explain to someone OK click here (then my fingernail grazes the screen and clicks it for them)… crap I wanted you to do that so you’d actually learn.

That and then actually using it. It’s imprecise as hell, and to add to the annoyance, you can’t quite tell where you are clicking because, your finger is blocking what you are touching.

Generally speaking the first thing I do is disable the thing if I get a computer with one.

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For Apple specifically, it’s because it would cannibalize the sales of the iPad. They’ve pretty much got the tablet market cornered, the iPad is considered the only “good” tablet nowadays and by far the best selling, and they’re NOT giving that up. They’ll gladly let you sync your iPad to your Macbook to get a similar effect as having a direct touchscreen input though! How nice of them!

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I’ve been helping code this site for the last year or so on an android tablet ( I code using remote vim so why not ). I got tired of waiting for arm / risc laptops, wanted some good battery life, and to ditch the mouse too.

Because when using touchscreens, you need to press against something. Using touchscreens on laptops would only result in tilting the screen further back, because that’s how they’re made: to be easilly flipped up or down.

That’s like asking why touchscreen TVs are not mainstream. There is different devices for different purposes. Most people that buy a laptop need the keyboard and use it as a desktop. If a person wants or needs a laptop with touchscreen they either buy the niche models that exist (2-1 laptops) or they use a tablet since that’s the main intended use. Otherwise it will be a waste of resources for a feature most laptop users wont be using enough.

I have a laptop where the keyboard can flip around and I can use it as a tablet. When I flip the keyboard around to use as a stand to watch stuff I often use the touchscreen functionality. Outside of that, I hardly ever touch the screen. I think when there’s a keyboard or mouse it’s the preferred form of input.

I have touchscreen on my laptop. It works great with Linux. I’m suprised more people don’t want one.

Well if you want touchscreens for doing stuff quick, keyboard shortcuts do the trick even better than touchscreens in my opinion.

Because they are useless and uncomfortable

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I feel the same way, but maybe a touchscreen of the quality of one that’s on smartphones would be better?

For my use pretty pointless

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