women too btw…

I was talking to my fiance’s dad about this type of stuff recently and he’s absolutely convinced that the working class doesn’t exist anymore lol

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Baby-level understanding of class that completely ignores wage differences between a huge number of commodity-producing proletarians in the global south, vs a tiny number of service workers in imperial core countries.

Working class means much more than “gets paid a wage”, otherwise drone pilots and stock market researchers could be considered working class.

Are you saying that because many service workers suffer less than in many places, they don’t deserve solidarity nor should express solidarity? Because that is what this post by OP is essentially about.

Also, even though imperial core service workers technically make more money, it still isn’t enough to provide basic needs due to higher prices. There’s a homeless woman I see every day on my commute who is begging by an onramp I pass, but she also works full time at the Starbucks next to it. She has no teeth because she can’t afford a dentist and the back of her shoes flop around because she can’t afford new ones.

And this post wasn’t talking about solidarity with class traitors like pigs, active duty military, and wealthy financiers. It was more intended to combat the blue collar vs. service divide prevalent in society.

If I misunderstood your implications please let me know, but otherwise we can’t ignore the plight of any working class person purely out of this “I suffer more than you!” attitude.

Edit: spelling error fixed

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Not Antiwork and one of them is not like the other (hint: think about where coffee is grown).

Depend do he own the plantation? Work it himself? Do he employ other people? Context points on labourer, not the owner.

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Sure, but I was also referring to the fact that the other three are directly benefitting from the post-colonial exploitation scheme that is deeply embedded in the coffee trade.

Yes, it is capitalism feature though, it don’t take anything from their being the working class in their conditions. There could be of course more to say about said conditions, but the meme is accurate.

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The problem is that reducing such dynamics to class struggle is an over-simplification that is IMHO doing more harm than good.

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It’s a lens of analysis and a very useful and interesting one at that. People who need to sell most of their waking hours to survive have a lot in common, whether they benefit from post-colonial exploitation or not.

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The problem is that this kind of class reductionist analysis is completely blind to the negative and exploitative results of the work of these workers. Painting then as victims of capitalism, when they are the same time also active perpetrators of it is actively detrimental to fighting global capitalism.

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Every kind of analysis has strengths and weaknesses. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying and I was never opposed to your point.

It’s a meme. Not even a wall of text meme, but a chad one.

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Yes and a terrible one as I pointed out 😑

  1. We’re trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We’re trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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