Greetings, I always had a problem with a site called reddit,yes lemmy is not reddit,and yesterday I have been permanently banned from it.Mostly there are two reasons: anti-migrant statements, and speaking against LGBTQ .I don’t want to do self-censorship.So is this site for me or should I find another one ?

This site isn’t for you. You’re a migrant in nearly all countries that you would go, LGBTQ people don’t need anyone to speak against them. Thanks and bye.

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Thanks for the advice I would definatly move on to 8kun.

good luck with all the pedophile content!

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Maybe pawoo or gab could suite him?

I really don’t think we should accept ideas in large font

The bigger the font, the more the man knows you won’t let your bigotry be censored

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Nice Paradox

Your different ideas shouldn’t be accepted anywhere, go back under your rock

Thats a rather bigoted opinion you have.

Are you for fucking real here? I’m bigoted because some dude wants a nice racist echo chamber where he can shit on queers and immigrants?

No need to get upset. Here is a definition of bigotry, which in my opinion matches your comment well:

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities that are different from their own. Mostly, the person’s opinions are based on prejudice.

Note that op hasnt given any indication that he would “shit on” anyone, he just wants a place to express his opinion (which you obviously cant know). So its really your prejudice speaking.

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Homie is anti-lgbtq. There is not a polite way to express that someone shouldn’t exist.

The fact that you think there is says more about you than you may think it does.

It is absolutely insane that you’re more interested in politeness to oppressers than the oppressed.

He didnt say anything to suggest that they shouldnt exist. So stop projecting.

“anti LGBTQ” can mean literally nothing other than that they shouldn’t exist. Because to be against LGBTQ people (we are people, not things, not ideologies) is to say we should not exist as ourselves. There’s no such thing as “I don’t think gay people should be gay, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want them to exist.”

It’s not projection but you should question why you want to defend a homophobe and a racist so much online.

Or maybe he dislikes how LGBT people have yo promote their views everywhere, and attack everyone who disagrees in the slightest. No one cares what you do at home in your bedroom, or who you love, but we also dont need to know all the details.

If no one cared then there wouldn’t be so many creepy little twerps like you defending bigotry online.

It’s also supremely ignorant to act like queer rights are just about who you fuck. Sorry trans people, you’re allowed to be who you are in your bedroom, but don’t you dare go into public like that. Gay marriage? Only if you want to get married in your bedroom secretly.

Get the right the fuck out of here with your bullshit

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Who is defending bigotry here? It was you who said that “Your different ideas shouldn’t be accepted anywhere”, which is clearly an ignorant, bigoted statement. Yet you somehow feel attacked by me? It doesnt make any sense.

Why are you switching the topic to gay marriage all of a sudden? Just before you mentioned that “they shouldnt exist”, implying things like murder or genocide. But no one is even considering that, only your paranoia. Just stop acting like a victim for no reason. I really and honestly dont care what your sexuality or gender is, so I hope you can stop distracting from the original discussion.

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Op want a place to express their prejudice as you stated a bigot.

Per your definition being intolerant of persons that explicitly state their bigotry doesn’t make you a bigot…

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The tolerance paradox has been discussed throughout history. Basically the conclusion is, you cannot tolerate intolerance. Intolerance is the one thing that only deserves intolerance.

Seen this image here being slapped left and right.

It’s hard to call it a paradox (at least the way it’s being used in this context) when you’re implying a definitive answer.

Philosophically, I don’t think Popper was saying we should be intolerant to intolerance per se, but the fact that by doing so we end up in a conondrum of wheter we, as defenders of tolerance, are intolerant.

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Philosophically, I don’t think Popper was saying we should be intolerant to intolerance per se, but the fact that by doing so we end up in a conondrum of wheter we, as defenders of tolerance, are intolerant.

Sure, but he definitely concludes that intolerating intolerance is the way to go, despite the circular and self-referential nature of the issue. Like everything in life, there are exceptions that must be had to make things work, and tolerant people not tolerating intolerance is one of those necessary exceptions. There are plenty of really obvious things that humanity should not be tolerating, like rape, pedophilia, genocide, etc. If your argument is that just because you’re intolerant of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, that means you’re a hypocrite and therefore no better than the racists, sexists, and homophobes themselves, that is a thoroughly invalid argument.

You cant fight intolerance with intolerance. That will cause more conflict and more problems.

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Hard disagree. Actually, really hard disagree on all fronts. I really recommend actually reading what Karl Popper and others has to say on this, they’ve broken this issue down better than I can hope to in a Lemmy comment.

Then I disagree with you and Karl Popper.

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They’re not merely different ideas lol, they’re racism and homophobia. Those ideas aren’t different, they’re unacceptable. Whether you like lattes or black coffee would be “different ideas”.

And how do you know so specifically what op thinks? Are you a mindreader?

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Not a mindreader, but a reader. I read. Not minds, but text. Like OP’s actual fucking post.

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If you have an idea and will respectfully present it rather than yelling “racist”, “sexist”, “bigot”, some sort of phobe etc. then I respect your right to having an opinion and your right to voice it. I want people to have good, honest debates on politics or simply not bother and try getting along on things they do like.I am not a Nazi or racist you are delusional!

Other people’s lives are not a debate topic for some bigot on the Internet. No one owes you a listening ear for your trash views.

Never called you a Nazi, but the fact you defended yourself from it tells me you likely have a lot of practice being called it. If you’re not one, you might wonder why your “different opinions” sound so much like their that people call you one.

Whats with the projection all the time? No one is debating about anyones live, or suggesting that people should be killed. It seems you are unable to have a normal discussion, and try to use these shocking presumptions in place of arguments.

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Like, you’re anti-immigrant and anti-lgbtq?

You might not get banned, but I hope everyone’s horrifically mean if you express those sentiments.

He’d get banned on day one. Lemmy.ml tolerates libs a lot of the time, but not this shit.

Lemmy.ml is not for you. Bye!

lemmy.ml is definitely not for you, but you will most surely find another instance accepting you on https://join-lemmy.org/instances. If you don’t find anything that suits your needs you can also run your own instance.

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Thank you for your advice I never knew there is something like that.I will try to build a lemmy instance on my server.

Time for another racist Lemmy instance!

Based on those reasons for a ban, no. This applies also for many other Lemmy instances.

Nope, Lemmy is not for you. Have a good day.

You might want to try one of the chans or free speech reddit clones, perhaps?

Nobody mentioned this yet, but Lemmy is federated. It’s impossible to be fully censored since you can run your own instance. (You might have a hard time finding people to federate with you though)

Hello, just before you get appalled by the nonchalant attitude of some of the users (and I honestly wouldn’t blame their resentment) let me clarify some points.

Basically, lemmy is decentralized and federated; there are numerous independent servers that host lemmy with each its own rules and values. Right now you’re on https://lemmy.ml which is a leftist instance. To find an instance that’s more suitable to you check https://join-lemmy.org/instances

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I got permanently banned from Reddit after being on for 10 years for suggesting that rapists be castrated. They are going way too far. That being said, you’re probably going to get a lot of pushback from your views on here.

You may express those ideas respectfully at wolfballs.com however I also allow pro immigrant and pro lgbt content as well.

I also offer free tech support for setting up your own instance.

Big tech censor ship hurts us all.

You can chill a bit with the nice people here, no need to spark debate.

Why would I do that?

try making friends with some migrants and some queer people (there are lots of both on Lemmy) - I’d bet everything that your dehumanising views will change, and you won’t have to worry about “self censorship” to participate here

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