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A really beautiful planet! What a shame that so many people do a lot every day to destroy it.

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Not so many, a greedy minority

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Not so many, a greedy minority

Like almost every person you can see in the streets is not a minority. There are only a few exception, like the vegan person on their human powered bike.

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I am not vegan. The problem of contamination is not so much that people eat animal products or not, it lies in the abuse of these foods, that forces the industry to massify livestock. It is not about supplementing food with animal proteins from time to time, but about not doing it 3 times a day and 7 times a week as is usual in our consumer society. Apart from this, the main cause of pollution lies in fossil fuels and deforestation, that is, in the increase of large urbanizations, the import of products with large ships, instead of using local products, the excess of plastic containers in pre-manufactured products, wild consumerism in a capitalist system that is based on infinite growth in order to function, in industrialists and politicians who come to the environmental summit every year with more than 250 private jets to limit themselves to stuffing their guts at the buffet without more results, since the necessary measures may reduce their profits. https://qz.com/749443/being-vegan-isnt-as-environmentally-friendly-as-you-think/

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I don’t want to attack you with this questions, but do you eat animal products 7 times a week? I am just asking that, because some people see themselves as sustainable if they reduce their consumption of animal products, which is still pretty high (like 6 out of 7 times a week), even if it’s a good step in the right direction. But they somehow stop there, living with their excuse. If we talk about sustainability it must go back to the Sunday roast (it’s once a week) and not every day with a single exception.

I’ve read the website you linked and they say by themselves that it is only one study, who claims such thing. And I see some problems with this study, too. They calculated to use every piece of land. In a sustainable world it isn’t possible to use everything, we need e.g. a lot of grazing land for insects, it needs to be untouched (no humans and no plant eating animals on it), a lot of wild flowers have to grow. Untouched forests and wildlife sanctuary is necessary.

And the study focuses only on feeding humans, which isn’t good, too. If we would stop world hunger, it would lead to humans to produce more humans, which are hungry too and which would lead to more food production and more land must be used for humans instead for nature. There are a lot of species on this planet, which can live without humans or in other words, some species can’t live where humans are (and that’s not the fault of the animals). And humans are not the most important thing on the planet (if it’s about sustainability).

The problem with the industry producing too much plastic wouldn’t be a problem anymore if people would have a sustainable mindset. If almost every action is questioned and if people would think “This is a lot of plastic, I look for an alternative” while grabbing food, which is wrapped in plastic, this wouldn’t be a problem anymore.

Your receipt is your ballot. Every single person can have more influence through their purchases than politicians ever do.

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No, I eat mainly, what is said, in a vegetarian way, that is, I include products such as cheese and other dairy products and eggs in my diet. I also eat from time to time meat products and fish (1-2 times a week). In the latter I prefer quality over quantity, that is, I do not spend money on meat and fish offered by massive livestock, but farm animals. But yes, I do believe that I eat reasonably sustainably with a diet that can be considered traditional in the sense of the word.

We are biologically omnivorous and our intestine is too short to be able to extract all the nutrients from purely vegetable foods, which must be supplied in the long run in the vegan diet with vitamin and mineral supplements, not contained in sufficient quantities or directly not present in vegetables. . . For example, some supplements, such as yeast, are not essentially vegan, since they are bacteria. Even in the wild our closest relatives, the chimpanzees, feed mainly on vegetables and fruits, but do supplement it from time to time with insects, invertebrates and even hunt small mammals. Really important is meat and animal products in children and young people in development, not so much in adults and less so in older people. In the future perhaps it will be put more into use to use insects for the contribution of proteins, since they offer proteins of high nutritional value and of course it would be sustainable and ecological in the broadest sense. Things of customs, in the end there is not so much difference between a shrimp and a grasshopper, the latter being even a plague.

Anyway, everyone has their preferences and everything is valid, as long as it doesn’t lead to abuse, it is at this point where it fails too many times. Fanaticism is never healthy in food, neither for some and not for others

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