Some of the comments weren’t as bad as I expected.
I’ve never really been into comic books or graphic novels, especially not after the boom in the last decade or so. I did think The Watchmen was good. I think a lot of people who read it don’t understand the point though and think it’s just another ‘gritty’ superhero graphic novel.
It’s in /r/nottheonion. Of course they don’t understand.
Tbh though I read Watchmen a very long time ago and it was one of the first comic books I read. So I don’t understand what it is supposed to criticise and how. I thought it was just another superhero comic and ended up not liking it too much.
Regarding the mass affection of superhero stuff being a precursor of fascism, I am not sure about that. But I agree with his “superheroes: an infantile disorder” point. Superhero movies have very simplistic and idealistic plots. I don’t read superhero comics at all so I can’t comment on those. It is definitely concerning when superhero movies are one of most major cultural products of our times.
The smartest person in the world tries to save the world by inflicting a catastrophe on millions of victims. The most powerful person in the world disregards the world completely. The most hateful person in the world is the one with the actual moral compass. The most celebrated heroes are the ones used by the government to inflict war crimes.
Watchmen is a criticism on superhero culture, and its story is pretty antifascist.
I don’t dislike the film, but I agree that Snyder didn’t understand or didn’t want to show what the novel was about. He turned it into a film about how Dr. Manhatan is a sad little god, and sprinkled it with action scenes of Rorschach beating people. Though, the pirate story is pretty good I find.
They only added it in the director’s cut to be fair. And it was basically done as a favour to Gerard Butler who wanted to play in the movie but there was no other role for him. It does exist as a separate film too.
Best quote I heard about the film adaption was that Zack Snyder took a story where the superheroes weren’t supposed to be cool and made them really fucking cool.
Zack Snyder’s also an Objectivist so it checks out lol.
I understand that Rorschach is kind of a nutjob, but in the context of the story I think he is arguably the closest thing to a hero. Despite its extremeness and brutality, I found it way easier to root for him and wanting the truth to come out.
I can also understand the action focus, I liked the action scenes but I understand that criticism.
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can’t say I disagree entirely especially with the first half of his statement
Some of the comments weren’t as bad as I expected.
I’ve never really been into comic books or graphic novels, especially not after the boom in the last decade or so. I did think The Watchmen was good. I think a lot of people who read it don’t understand the point though and think it’s just another ‘gritty’ superhero graphic novel.
Gonna have to find a scan and read Watchmen aren’t I
I haven’t read it since like 2011. I’ll have to re-read it to see if it holds up. But I remember it being way better than it’s peers.
It’s definitely not a waste of time at the least. I think Moore is an ‘anarchist’, but I’m not sure if he’s as bad as the ones we usually think of.
It’s in /r/nottheonion. Of course they don’t understand.
Tbh though I read Watchmen a very long time ago and it was one of the first comic books I read. So I don’t understand what it is supposed to criticise and how. I thought it was just another superhero comic and ended up not liking it too much.
Regarding the mass affection of superhero stuff being a precursor of fascism, I am not sure about that. But I agree with his “superheroes: an infantile disorder” point. Superhero movies have very simplistic and idealistic plots. I don’t read superhero comics at all so I can’t comment on those. It is definitely concerning when superhero movies are one of most major cultural products of our times.
The smartest person in the world tries to save the world by inflicting a catastrophe on millions of victims. The most powerful person in the world disregards the world completely. The most hateful person in the world is the one with the actual moral compass. The most celebrated heroes are the ones used by the government to inflict war crimes.
Watchmen is a criticism on superhero culture, and its story is pretty antifascist.
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I don’t dislike the film, but I agree that Snyder didn’t understand or didn’t want to show what the novel was about. He turned it into a film about how Dr. Manhatan is a sad little god, and sprinkled it with action scenes of Rorschach beating people. Though, the pirate story is pretty good I find.
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They only added it in the director’s cut to be fair. And it was basically done as a favour to Gerard Butler who wanted to play in the movie but there was no other role for him. It does exist as a separate film too.
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Best quote I heard about the film adaption was that Zack Snyder took a story where the superheroes weren’t supposed to be cool and made them really fucking cool.
Zack Snyder’s also an Objectivist so it checks out lol.
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The pirate stuff was so garbage
What in your opinion did Snyder get wrong?
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I understand that Rorschach is kind of a nutjob, but in the context of the story I think he is arguably the closest thing to a hero. Despite its extremeness and brutality, I found it way easier to root for him and wanting the truth to come out.
I can also understand the action focus, I liked the action scenes but I understand that criticism.
They go with the novel weapon for the HBO sequel to the comic for what it’s worth. But I think you would also not like the show.
The pirate story is only in the Director’s Cut.
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Even Snyder himself said he regretted the Pirate stuff, and that either the director’s edition or the theatrical version is the best.
Is the movie a parody of reality or reality a parody of the movie?