With lemmy it is possible to upload any image to the lemmy server (including archive websites), while writing a post without even posting.

This could be used to upload pornographic, right winged or other illegal content and use it or share it on other platforms, even if the content is on your lemmy instance.

In Germany advocates even use archive.org as an evidence that you had illegal content on your website, including the exact date.

This could be very expensive for everyone who is managing a lemmy instance.

Another problem with the upload is, that a lot of images can be uploaded, without even using them in a post, just filling up the server with garbage data. Attackers could use this to automatically fill up the web space and provoke a crash.

Who is the owner of uploaded and shared images and posts? If a lemmy post gets shared, a copy of the image will be created. If the image doesn’t have a share-alike licence, the owner of the instance could get in trouble.

I am not an advocate! Those are just things I thought about, which could cause trouble if I would have a lemmy instance.

It would be nice to be able to prune all unused images

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It might be better if the post, which will be published, will be checked for the images, which have been uploaded and just delete all other ones, which have been uploaded, but not have been used in the post. This mechanics must be integrated in the edit post functionality, too.

Additionally all images could have a flag, which contain a “used_in_post” flag, because if someone only uploads images without sending the post and closing the browser/tab, the images will not be checked.

If those images have a time stamp in the database, they could be deleted after x hours without getting a used_in_post flag.

Not a lawyer but afaik the only legal requirement is to take down illegal content when you are notified about it. That happened one time before, the hosting provider informed us about some illegal images, we deleted them and all was fine.

It’s fine as long as you remove the image after finding out about it. If you knowingly let these images stay up, that’s when you’re in trouble.

maxmoon
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I don’t know if this is true in Germany or other European countries. I think you can get sued pretty fast without even knowing what is going on.

Arthur Besse
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you really think websites which allow users to upload things are illegal in europe? huge if true!

(seriously though, i guess you haven’t followed the “upload filters” controversy around the Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market… even the wildest proposals which would’ve imposed substantial liabilities on some operators wouldn’t apply to sites as small as anything that currently exists in the fediverse.)

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Yeah, this does sound like a bug. And it will cause problems sooner or later.

Soviet Snake
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AFAIK you can only upload 5 or 6 images in a span of maybe ten minutes, after than it makes you wait, but I kind of agree with the rest. Again, though, Lemmy/Lemmygrad stand as platforms outside of Western hegemonic legislation (moving to some Asian country would be wise, probably) that is why they support communities relating to piracy, which I think is a sound decision, just because your country does not allow them it doesn’t mean the whole globe thinks the same.

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With automation it would be possible to make several accounts upload a lot of images at the same time, which might fill the server within a short time.

But I get it that not the whole world is the same, but isn’t it a little bit overreacting to move to an Asian country because of this? If not, which country should it be? And it doesn’t mean you can live in freedom there, for example: Foreigners can’t buy property in Thailand. And Asia countries might have other things, which we see as granted, but isn’t there.

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It’s not precisely because of this, but more because in general you’d face less issues if you’re already in a country outside Western jurisdiction than if you are in one and move after something happened. If I remember correctly the developers wanted to do this from the beginning but there was a problem with them either not knowing of a good host in Asia or something regarding price.

Agree on your second point, what I said was a simplification, but in general I’d say if you’re hosting something in Germany (as an example) they are definitely going to comply with US’s laws regarding copyright (plus their own), whereas some other country might not even have proper copyright laws (on the internet).

Porn isn’t illegal

maxmoon
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Replace this word with “Pornographic content with underage persons”.

It would give pedophiles the possibility to share illegal content without the admin of an instance even recognizing it.

Some porn is

some everything is.

yeah well, we’re talking about the illegal stuff

Well yeah but I think OP referred to kiddy porn

Mad
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that is the grossest phrase i’ve heard to describe it. makes it sound all innocent and fun.

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