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Every year there’s fireworks in The Netherlands and people en masse light them, and every year there are accidents. This year a 23 year old guy died, some 13 year old lost several fingers and an 11 year old lost his hand and an eye.
Turns out creating a culture of giving explosives to kids and morons is not that smart.
For some reason, completely unprompted, YouTube is suddenly recommending me a bunch of far right conspiracy channels that hide their content behind unrelated thumbnails. I guess all those meme comps I’ve been watching has convinced the computer that I want to watch neo nazi filth.
So, today I have finally come to terms with that the feelings I can have for BOTH women and men are probably real and that the men part of those feelings isn’t something that goes away really 🥳
I actually finally had time to watch the lecture I linked in the comment and they showcased a quote from a memo made by the Secretary of State to Kennedy.
The use of defoliant does not violate any rule of international law concerning the conduct of chemical warfare and is an accepted tactic of war. Precedent has been been established by the British during the emergency in Malaya in their use of helicopters for destroying cops by chemical spraying.
There’s talks about a flare up in hostilities around Korean peninsula, in Serbia and Taiwan strait. Are we actually going to see global war in our lifetime?
Not to mention the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict; the RAND corporation literally released a paper some time ago listing all the places where NATO could cause conflict to potentially weaken Russia
Perhaps. The Global North and South are destined for and are currently in conflict right now, and it will happen regardless of whether it will actually spill into war or not.
I don’t know what form it’ll take, but I do think we will. Revolutions have almost always come out of war, as the culmination of contradictions, so I’m optimistic that as long as we don’t have a significant nuclear exchange that the current world order will be overturned.
I’ve been keeping up on the Serbian one. The conflict has a history of bluster from both sides. Kosovo (created out of thin air by NATO to occupy a part of the heart of Yugoslavia in the 90s) tends to send it’s troops, cops, etc…into the northern section of their occupied space which has a lot of ethnic Serbs living there, which under a treaty signed in the 2000s is to be controlled and patrolled by Serbia. This time Kosovo arrested a Serb in the northern space, a police captain IIRC, and in response the Serbs put up barricades on the edge of the space with non-Serb Kosovo and have said (and done so far) that they will not get rid of the barricades until their officer is released. Then Kosovo and Armenian forces (who are supposed to be banned from the space under the same treaty and have a history with the Serbs) stormed and took over a municipal building in the ethnic Serb occupied Kosovo area, further raising tensions. The demand that they leave said building was added to the demands of the barricade protesters. The Serbian president has ordered Serbian forces to the boarder, Kosovo has ordered their forces (including Armenian forces) to the boarder. Both are threatening to invade. NATO has sent a letter to Serbia telling them to allow Kosovo to take down the barricades and take over Serbia. The deadline to reply was tonight, so far I haven’t received any updates. Russia has said a few times now they will support Serbia in the event of invasion by Kosovo, Armenia, and/or NATO. A Russian peacekeeping troop was forced from their building in the northern occupied space and the building was burned down earlier this year. There has been gun shots and explosions on and off for months now. Much of this has been repeated time and time again although from what I know of the situation the ultimatum from NATO is new.
To take over Prestina which is the capital of Kosovo. I mistook it for the capital of Serbia, so no. Apparently Kosovo (or Albania) might not control Kosovo right now and so want control. This is unclear to me. Sorry for the misstatement on my part.
They could. Some other questions come up as well; Should they? Should Russia? Will China get involved? What would the overall outcome either way for the geopolitical position of the EU? The US seems determined to destroy Europe’s economic sovereignty and make them a poor and dependent region so it’s within their interests to start another conflict in the region. Should they? No, but this has never stopped them before. Should Russia open another front? I wish I had all of the information the Russian Ministry of Defense has because they are very secretive and do things in a matter according to a game of chess. I cannot say but let’s hope they have learned from Afghanistan. Will China get involved? Tough to say, they have a backup consumption link in America, and have been doing a lot in Africa lately. It depends if Europe is detrimental to the CPC’s plan for China’s development. Again I wish I knew more. These are all aspects of the situation in Kosovo and Serbia. Isn’t it interesting how one isolated conflict is in fact interconnected to the most complex aspects of our global economy…
Wow! Echoing comrade Shrike502’s thanks. I’m at least glad to see Serbia refusing to grin and bear (or aid and abet) the continued assault against their sovereignty like so many of the comprador governments in the region do. It is absolutely horrifying contemplating what the hawks will do to escalate (or more hopefully de-escalate).
If I had to guess, Kosovo has outlived its unconditional allyship and usefulness if it threatens provoking a full blown NATO-Russia war by illegally continuing to expand its borders. While currently occupied by NATO, they’re not considered a member state, right? So the hawks getting involved would probably look a lot like how they’ve been involved in Ukraine, I think, at least I hope. The NATO presence already established there does make it more volatile.
My pleasure. From what I have been told by Serbians and others intimate with the situation there, Kosovo is like Ukraine in the sense that it does not make a move without NATO’s order. They interpret this as a NATO aggression. The purpose is unclear. A distraction? A second front in the Russian campaign? An attempt to gain more of a stranglehold on the EU in that area? No one is sure but there is understandably a lot of anger over this action.
I can think of three scenarios where we avoid global nuclear war:
Amerika accepts that it can no longer be the global hegemon and doesn’t fire nuclear weapons; highly unlikely in my estimation
the people in charge of firing Amerika’s nuclear weapons decide not to because they have some sliver of common sense; hopefully a bit more feasible
some country in the anti-imperialist bloc (e.g. China) manages to prevent Amerika’s nuclear weapons from being fired and/or detonated; no clue if this is possible
Russia’s hypersonic missiles and new splice missile system can hit America. America’s missile defense system cannot stop these missiles from landing and in the case they are somehow able to, the splice system has accounted for that, they won’t be able to stop enough of them. Right now Russia has the capability of preemptively destroying the US outright without it having a chance to retaliate much if at all in response. I wouldn’t worry too much about a nuclear war, it would be more like a nuclear battle and then a very quick surrender by the rest of NATO.
The real question is what would that kind of detonation do to the environment? Modern nuclear weapons minimize fallout to maximize impact so there is a possibility Earth may not be screwed in this case, however this is a question for professional and non-hysterical scientists to answer. (So not the ones on Reddit)
some country in the anti-imperialist bloc (e.g. China) manages to prevent Amerika’s nuclear weapons from being fired and/or detonated; no clue if this is possible
Pretty sure that is impossible. China’s been working on some kinda algorithms for intercepting missiles, I think, but there’s just too many shit out there. Not to mentioned automated systems in other countries that would detect a launch and call for a retalitory strike.
I’m mainly hoping that the people who are actually able to fire the missiles (I assume it’s a few people in the Pentagon) find some shred of human decency and refuse orders if it comes to that
This is a Dengist community in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information that can lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This community is not ironic. We are Marxists-Leninists.
If you haven’t already found it, this GitHub page is an excellent collection of sources about socialism, imperialism, and other relevant topics, made by @dessalines and others.
Nazis be like:
Every year there’s fireworks in The Netherlands and people en masse light them, and every year there are accidents. This year a 23 year old guy died, some 13 year old lost several fingers and an 11 year old lost his hand and an eye.
Turns out creating a culture of giving explosives to kids and morons is not that smart.
It’s going to be 17 degrees Celsius here today. That’s T-shirt weather in december…
Here, it was -10 Fahrenheit and now it’s like 60. Changed in less than a week, what a world
Algeria confirmed it will join brics in 2023
YEAHHHHH!
Today is the centenary of the USSR!
I literally have no idea how to celebrate New Year this time.
Do it how I always do, The Victory of Cuba over Batista, in Liberation Day
For some reason, completely unprompted, YouTube is suddenly recommending me a bunch of far right conspiracy channels that hide their content behind unrelated thumbnails. I guess all those meme comps I’ve been watching has convinced the computer that I want to watch neo nazi filth.
Does Danny Haiphong have any Vietnamese origins? (Dumb question, ik he’s the “Spirit of Ho” and Haiphong is a Vietnamese port city)
one of his parents was born in Vietnam (he mentioned some of his background in the most recent stream, I think)
aight understood.
So, today I have finally come to terms with that the feelings I can have for BOTH women and men are probably real and that the men part of those feelings isn’t something that goes away really 🥳
Glückwunsch mate.
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bilievableI’ll see myself out
Oh you
Congrats Comrade
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So the US indeed justified it’s use of chemical defoliants in Viet Nam by it’s use by the British in Malaya.
This was prompted by a comment I made before.
I actually finally had time to watch the lecture I linked in the comment and they showcased a quote from a memo made by the Secretary of State to Kennedy.
I was able to eventually find it here.
I hate anglos so much.
Anyone know any good resources/news websites for Vietnam and Laos?
I would suggest luna oi on YouTube for info about vietnam
I follow her on Twitter, will definitely check out her YouTube when I have the time
There’s talks about a flare up in hostilities around Korean peninsula, in Serbia and Taiwan strait. Are we actually going to see global war in our lifetime?
Not to mention the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict; the RAND corporation literally released a paper some time ago listing all the places where NATO could cause conflict to potentially weaken Russia
Perhaps. The Global North and South are destined for and are currently in conflict right now, and it will happen regardless of whether it will actually spill into war or not.
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Do you think Japan would try a bite of Russian territories they claim as theirs? Kuril isles, Sakhalin?
No, considering Japan’s current geopolitical position, pissing off Russia in addition to China would be beyond suicide
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I don’t know what form it’ll take, but I do think we will. Revolutions have almost always come out of war, as the culmination of contradictions, so I’m optimistic that as long as we don’t have a significant nuclear exchange that the current world order will be overturned.
I’ve been keeping up on the Serbian one. The conflict has a history of bluster from both sides. Kosovo (created out of thin air by NATO to occupy a part of the heart of Yugoslavia in the 90s) tends to send it’s troops, cops, etc…into the northern section of their occupied space which has a lot of ethnic Serbs living there, which under a treaty signed in the 2000s is to be controlled and patrolled by Serbia. This time Kosovo arrested a Serb in the northern space, a police captain IIRC, and in response the Serbs put up barricades on the edge of the space with non-Serb Kosovo and have said (and done so far) that they will not get rid of the barricades until their officer is released. Then Kosovo and Armenian forces (who are supposed to be banned from the space under the same treaty and have a history with the Serbs) stormed and took over a municipal building in the ethnic Serb occupied Kosovo area, further raising tensions. The demand that they leave said building was added to the demands of the barricade protesters. The Serbian president has ordered Serbian forces to the boarder, Kosovo has ordered their forces (including Armenian forces) to the boarder. Both are threatening to invade. NATO has sent a letter to Serbia telling them to allow Kosovo to take down the barricades and take over Serbia. The deadline to reply was tonight, so far I haven’t received any updates. Russia has said a few times now they will support Serbia in the event of invasion by Kosovo, Armenia, and/or NATO. A Russian peacekeeping troop was forced from their building in the northern occupied space and the building was burned down earlier this year. There has been gun shots and explosions on and off for months now. Much of this has been repeated time and time again although from what I know of the situation the ultimatum from NATO is new.
…Isn’t Armenia a Russian ally? I think you meant Albania
Yes thank you! My mistake!
To take over Serbia? The entire country?
To take over Prestina which is the capital of Kosovo. I mistook it for the capital of Serbia, so no. Apparently Kosovo (or Albania) might not control Kosovo right now and so want control. This is unclear to me. Sorry for the misstatement on my part.
Ah, I see. That makes sense
Thanks for this explanation.
Could NATO fight proxy wars in Ukraine and Kosovo at the same time?
They could. Some other questions come up as well; Should they? Should Russia? Will China get involved? What would the overall outcome either way for the geopolitical position of the EU? The US seems determined to destroy Europe’s economic sovereignty and make them a poor and dependent region so it’s within their interests to start another conflict in the region. Should they? No, but this has never stopped them before. Should Russia open another front? I wish I had all of the information the Russian Ministry of Defense has because they are very secretive and do things in a matter according to a game of chess. I cannot say but let’s hope they have learned from Afghanistan. Will China get involved? Tough to say, they have a backup consumption link in America, and have been doing a lot in Africa lately. It depends if Europe is detrimental to the CPC’s plan for China’s development. Again I wish I knew more. These are all aspects of the situation in Kosovo and Serbia. Isn’t it interesting how one isolated conflict is in fact interconnected to the most complex aspects of our global economy…
Wow! Echoing comrade Shrike502’s thanks. I’m at least glad to see Serbia refusing to grin and bear (or aid and abet) the continued assault against their sovereignty like so many of the comprador governments in the region do. It is absolutely horrifying contemplating what the hawks will do to escalate (or more hopefully de-escalate).
If I had to guess, Kosovo has outlived its unconditional allyship and usefulness if it threatens provoking a full blown NATO-Russia war by illegally continuing to expand its borders. While currently occupied by NATO, they’re not considered a member state, right? So the hawks getting involved would probably look a lot like how they’ve been involved in Ukraine, I think, at least I hope. The NATO presence already established there does make it more volatile.
My pleasure. From what I have been told by Serbians and others intimate with the situation there, Kosovo is like Ukraine in the sense that it does not make a move without NATO’s order. They interpret this as a NATO aggression. The purpose is unclear. A distraction? A second front in the Russian campaign? An attempt to gain more of a stranglehold on the EU in that area? No one is sure but there is understandably a lot of anger over this action.
Or perhaps Kosovo is about to perform the function it was created to do - cause chaos in Europe by creating another hot spot
Thank you for the analysis! First time hearing there are Armenians involved, what are they doing there?
Albania, not Armenia
You’re welcome. From what I understand they are there to agitate the Serbs and bolster the Kosovo forces.
So another NATO’s attack dog?
Yes
hopefully not
I can think of three scenarios where we avoid global nuclear war:
Russia’s hypersonic missiles and new splice missile system can hit America. America’s missile defense system cannot stop these missiles from landing and in the case they are somehow able to, the splice system has accounted for that, they won’t be able to stop enough of them. Right now Russia has the capability of preemptively destroying the US outright without it having a chance to retaliate much if at all in response. I wouldn’t worry too much about a nuclear war, it would be more like a nuclear battle and then a very quick surrender by the rest of NATO.
The real question is what would that kind of detonation do to the environment? Modern nuclear weapons minimize fallout to maximize impact so there is a possibility Earth may not be screwed in this case, however this is a question for professional and non-hysterical scientists to answer. (So not the ones on Reddit)
I hope you’re right
Me too
Pretty sure that is impossible. China’s been working on some kinda algorithms for intercepting missiles, I think, but there’s just too many shit out there. Not to mentioned automated systems in other countries that would detect a launch and call for a retalitory strike.
What countries? I know Russia has a Dead Hand system
Britain has that with submarines. India and Pakistan might as well. France, Israel.
😔
Folks in my org ssay revolutionary optimism is important, but I just find it hard, given the absurd odds
I’m mainly hoping that the people who are actually able to fire the missiles (I assume it’s a few people in the Pentagon) find some shred of human decency and refuse orders if it comes to that
The same people who tortured civilains for fun at Abu Gharib?
maybe it won’t be the same people and/or they’ll draw the line at ending all of humanity
or the engineers in charge of upkeep sabotage it so that they can’t be fired 🙏