I made clear what was opinion and experience and it was a discussion. re-framing any difference of opinion as a complaint isn’t a way that will make people want to listen to your opinion. This is is far too personal for some unknown reason. I also didn’t deny saying anything. I’m sorry this bothers you so much. I have every right in interactions to tell a person to stop selling me on it, as they were certainly doing, and I’m not sure what you expect to get out of this way of responding to me. Your other response was fine as it was informative but this is combative and personal and unncessary. Insulting me won’t make me interested in hearing what you have to say.

I understand. When I downloaded it I thought it was just a new browser, not meant for users of a specific instance. Would be great to have one connected to my instance so I see the appeal somewhat but it’s not a universal one as it seemed to be marketed.

I’m not complaining. I’m discussing. At this point, I feel like you’re badgering me and spamming me for having a difference of opinion. I’ve asked you not to sell me on it multiple times. It’s absurd that you continue the way you are as though you’re paid by Vivalidi. I downloaded it as a browser not knowing it wasn’t meant for me as you explain. That’s poor marketing and not my fault so I don’t appreciate the discussion getting to this point.

Had the set up been simpler I might have seen this but at this point I’m not likely to re-download it and use it. If someone else wants to that’s up to them, of course. I’m not alone in my disappointment / frustration as a non-Vivaldi user.

Consent isn’t the issue. I want a browser that allows me to use it as I choose not as it does. I can log in to my instance on any other browser so why not here. We have different experiences and perspectives but please stop spamming me about Vivaldi .

The “commerce” quote came from someone else on Mastodon who posts about social media / the Fediverse a lot. You don’t need to sell me on this so please stop. I don’t want a Vivaldi account, for reasons and the browser and its features didn’t impress me otherwise. I have all those things in places that I feel better about and are more useful. Feel free to use it and I hope you enjoy, though.

I don’t really see why most people would have any interest in this browser’s feature then. I know I have no interest in an account on the Vivaldi instance. A better and more popular feature might be a generic mastodon log in to the instance you already use imho

True. For me Vivaldi’s features are useless as i don’t want to make an alt on their instance. I can’t say for certain how much commerce they’d bring to the Fediverse. I agree that, as much as I like the idea of the Fediverse growing, allowing pre-existing corporations to Federate should be avoided and stopped for obvious reasons

Unfortunately it does so by forcing you to join the new Vivaldi instance which one person on Mastodon referred to as the most commercial one. He also said the login process is complicated. I gave up and deleted it after realizing I couldn’t login to my own instance

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